tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post9211408026680067973..comments2023-10-14T06:19:18.000-05:00Comments on Rocket Scientist: Saturday Quotathon: ScienceStephanie Barrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17772217449161603561noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-13577082264477915272009-11-08T18:32:45.541-06:002009-11-08T18:32:45.541-06:00Perhaps this is a time for me to chime in, though ...Perhaps this is a time for me to chime in, though I admit the recent exchange has made my intended comment kill itself unceremoniously.<br /><br />Facts do NOT make up reality. Our perception is what makes our reality, and far too often we insist upon perceiving what we want to see instead what is actually facing us. That is, perhaps, why I cannot be so optimistic as Louis Pasteur, in his hope that "Science and Peace" will win out over "Ignorance and War." <br /><br />I may be a vegetarian pacifist, but to 95% of the American population, that just makes me weird.Dr. Cheryl Carvajalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15323455180953109460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-33111303921712207992009-11-08T17:21:56.077-06:002009-11-08T17:21:56.077-06:00Pardon my French, Relax Max, but bullshit. There ...Pardon my French, Relax Max, but bullshit. There are any number of professional naysayers out there who have raked in untold millions promoting the doubt (and there are any number of easy ways to find them). It is telling that many of the names are the same as those who argued cigarettes weren't really all that dangerous, and with much the same qualifications.<br /><br />Gore was the mouthpiece for what scientists have been saying for decades. That the story ended up being bits and pieces (for the extent of the predictions weren't in complete agreement) was inevitable when you tell a complex story through a limited venue where there are many players. It also meant that those who profit on our oil addiction could question the conclusion (which scientists were almost entirely in consensus on), because the details weren't concrete. But that's smoke, like arguing the volcano's not going to blow because different measurements (both bad) didn't match exactly.<br /><br />Ironically, the worst predictions in Gore's message have paled against the actual damage done to date, much of it happening long before predicted and certainly more extensively. The vagaries and ramifications are much more complex that even the direst predictions.<br /><br />Want to fight facts with facts? Bring it. NASA and EPA have tons of data on this. I work for one and my father worked for the other for decades.<br /><br />Gore is not a scientist and his message wasn't perfect, but it doesn't hold a candle to the mountain of deadly misinformation the oil companies (and their cronies) countered with. And people finally heard the message that had gone unheard for so long, which is worth something in my book.Stephanie Barrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17772217449161603561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-1237476057086009262009-11-08T17:09:12.327-06:002009-11-08T17:09:12.327-06:00I can't think of anyone who has made a lot of ...I can't think of anyone who has made a lot of money promoting doubt. I can think of ONE person who has made MUCH money promoting misinformation and outright lies. Al Gore. Stephanie, it's bad science to ignore facts. Facts make up reality.Relax Maxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01051381168322495999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-80149316787510589222009-11-08T12:32:09.249-06:002009-11-08T12:32:09.249-06:00Can I keep hoping that the Griswold quote is accur...Can I keep hoping that the Griswold quote is accurate vis-a-vis the antivaccine movement???The Motherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15157821003454766570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-5017463032354444412009-11-08T00:15:07.940-06:002009-11-08T00:15:07.940-06:00When it comes to climate change, I'm well awar...When it comes to climate change, I'm well aware of reality, Relax Max. Though I don't dispute that many people have made a mountain of money promoting doubt.Stephanie Barrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17772217449161603561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-75122976283749334192009-11-08T00:11:54.649-06:002009-11-08T00:11:54.649-06:00Truth doesn't change. There is only one realit...Truth doesn't change. There is only one reality. But some people make a nice living dealing in theories that are probably not true. I don't know exactly what that means, except someone mentioned Al Gore, and it popped into my head.<br /><br />Nice crop of quotes today. :)Relax Maxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01051381168322495999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-25398781440409170512009-11-07T20:15:19.190-06:002009-11-07T20:15:19.190-06:00Project Savior,
Because truth doesn't change...Project Savior, <br /><br />Because truth doesn't change, no matter what one believes. People live with the consequences of reality (not their perception of reality), whether they acknowledge it or not. And the people who pay the piper aren't always the ones who ring up the tab.Stephanie Barrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17772217449161603561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-54881338230807281932009-11-07T20:06:14.032-06:002009-11-07T20:06:14.032-06:00I need to put in a rebuttal, not that I believe it...I need to put in a rebuttal, not that I believe it, it's what Stephen Colbert said to Al Gore:<br />"Why should truth be more important than convenience?"Darrell B. Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02851443183217238218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-89076978874695924102009-11-07T18:07:39.676-06:002009-11-07T18:07:39.676-06:00What a great collection of quotes. Starting off wi...What a great collection of quotes. Starting off with that Einstein quote was perfect! and the Douglas Adams quote is one of my favorites of his - I use it for one of my email signature files. Heh, heh!Royhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01648670975466222140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-32119258369015036322009-11-07T18:03:25.866-06:002009-11-07T18:03:25.866-06:00Use only that which works, and take it from any pl...Use only that which works, and take it from any place you can find it.<br />-Bruce Lee<br /><br />Amen Bruce RiP...Jeff Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00667419764890599092noreply@blogger.com