tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post5728120497924473623..comments2023-10-14T06:19:18.000-05:00Comments on Rocket Scientist: "Normal" PeopleStephanie Barrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17772217449161603561noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-29791982200988034752010-08-08T08:11:00.464-05:002010-08-08T08:11:00.464-05:00Jeff: Studies show that children raised in homosex...Jeff: Studies show that children raised in homosexual unions are not only doing just fine, but might actually be better adjusted than those raised in heterosexual unions.<br /><br />Plus, I echo Stephanie's point. Kids are born into horrid circumstances EVERY DAY. Having a loving couple choose to bring a child into their home and commit to raising him? Priceless, to a child, regardless of ideology.The Motherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15157821003454766570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-72663323305748754772010-08-07T21:23:51.891-05:002010-08-07T21:23:51.891-05:00You know Aron, I hardly EVER look at videos online...You know Aron, I hardly EVER look at videos online. You make we look at a lot of them.<br /><br />Interestingly enough,though, I'm in complete agreement. And I've always been. I can prove it with a recycling of an old position. See it next, right here on Rocket Science.Stephanie Barrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17772217449161603561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-64143370099499730582010-08-07T21:21:13.580-05:002010-08-07T21:21:13.580-05:00I don't see it adding to bloodshed. The more t...I don't see it adding to bloodshed. The more this is accepted, the better I believe it will be. <br /><br />Nor do I see not recognizing marriage by corporations working well since retirement funds, life and health insurance are frequently tied to spouses and progeny. Even if there were a government sponsored health insurance, it would still be an issue. <br /><br />People who use violence for demanding their rights, always look like idgets and asses after the fact. And, although I think much of the rhetoric out there blasting gay marriage is pretty nasty, I've heard of very little violence on this subject. <br /><br />Maybe that means we're growing up a little.Stephanie Barrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17772217449161603561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-56103284071559693172010-08-07T19:31:04.593-05:002010-08-07T19:31:04.593-05:00today isn't my day http://www.youtube.com/watc...today isn't my day http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKV-xrRvLTA#t=4m43sAron Sorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09327072976517417107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-63110338498175174212010-08-07T19:30:14.940-05:002010-08-07T19:30:14.940-05:00opps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKV-xrRvLTA#t=...opps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKV-xrRvLTA#t=1m15sAron Sorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09327072976517417107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-12943079274667324892010-08-07T19:28:53.967-05:002010-08-07T19:28:53.967-05:00This statement is something that I think is worth ...This statement is something that I think is worth adding to this debate too:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKV-xrRvLTA&start=4:43Aron Sorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09327072976517417107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-40079668790840380132010-08-07T19:22:07.615-05:002010-08-07T19:22:07.615-05:00But, I fear if gay marriage was made legal, it cou...But, I fear if gay marriage was made legal, it could be the spark to start an anti-gay witch hunt in this country. I see the Christian community getting more and more focused on this issue as we get closer and closer to doing the right thing. <br /><br />What about having the state/ corporations not recognize marriage. I think this is the only way we can solve this issue without causing bloodshed. One of the main differences between civil unions and marriage is that people are likely to believe the civil unions are inferior to marriage, causing discrimination. If we have the government only see civil unions, it would be harder to discriminate. What do you think of this idea? I want gay marriage to happen, but I fear the bloodshed that might happen.Aron Sorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09327072976517417107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-6493601335247898492010-08-07T12:35:02.552-05:002010-08-07T12:35:02.552-05:00Jeff, every child born is put into a situation tha...Jeff, every child born is put into a situation that will shape his/hers outcome without being able to decide one way or the other. Every single child, adopted or not. <br /><br />Who is fit to decide who "deserves" to have children or who doesn't? I can think of a dozen different households more destructive to a child than one led by a homosexual couple. And they're not even illegal.Stephanie Barrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17772217449161603561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-77783466462610568132010-08-07T11:59:00.645-05:002010-08-07T11:59:00.645-05:00Just because a person thinks it is wrong, doesn’t ...Just because a person thinks it is wrong, doesn’t mean they are wrong because you feel it is right.<br />I can’t accept putting down a belief when you expect the person to respect yours; sure I know it goes both ways.<br /><br />I could care less about the marriage aspect of this, but could never agree about gay couples being allowed to adopt. It just doesn’t take the kid into account. It puts the child into a situation that will shape his/hers outcome without being able to decide one way or the other.<br /><br />Whatever makes two people happy is fine with me as long as it doesn’t negatively affect a third party.Jeff Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00667419764890599092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-55950899518691030192010-08-07T09:42:51.512-05:002010-08-07T09:42:51.512-05:00Centuries ago, marriage was rarely even performed ...Centuries ago, marriage was rarely even performed in a church by the clergy, with the exception of the very wealthy. It was a civil ceremony, and the less property one had, the smaller the ceremony. Often there was no ceremony at all, merely a signing of contracts by the parents of the two to be married. The only valid reason for annulment was if the woman bore no children... whether because the man could not perform or because the woman was barren (no one knew which, of course). <br /><br />The church moved in right around Shakespeare's lifetime, pushing to make it a more religiously centered institution. To Americans, that may seem like a long time ago, but in the span of human activity, it's very short. And even with that precedence, we cannot assume that such a system is any more valid than a new one. <br /><br />My greatest argument is that two same-gendered people getting married has NO effect on my own marriage. Two people being happy together can do nothing but reinforce my own happiness. What kills the reputation of marriage is the number of people who cheat on their spouses when they are supposed to be monogamous, and even they have little to do with my own relationship. <br /><br />I will DEFINITELY check out the ONION's take on it. And thanks for posting about it. I enjoyed Janet Reid's discussion, too.Dr. Cheryl Carvajalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15323455180953109460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-80644615202999752092010-08-07T09:01:35.646-05:002010-08-07T09:01:35.646-05:00It still baffles me that "intelligent" p...It still baffles me that "intelligent" people continue to point to a bronze age pastoral mythology as their "reason" for just about anything.<br /><br />Have you seen this? Brilliant sendup of the whole controversy.<br /><br />http://www.theonion.com/video/new-law-would-ban-marriages-between-people-who-don,14401/The Motherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15157821003454766570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-40923402207338408222010-08-07T08:39:47.150-05:002010-08-07T08:39:47.150-05:00Amen! And you're right about the history of ma...Amen! And you're right about the history of marriage - up until only very recently it was strictly a contract between two families trading property and ensuring the passing of that property down through ensuing generations.Royhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01648670975466222140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8198390912401056862.post-29125150491807748652010-08-07T08:01:30.122-05:002010-08-07T08:01:30.122-05:00The religious argument is flat out wrong. Growing ...The religious argument is flat out wrong. Growing up my church performed same-sex marriages, I considered them normal. And several other churches perform same-sex marriages.<br />So it turns into the "No good Scotsman" argument very quickly.Darrell B. Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02851443183217238218noreply@blogger.com